Wednesday, 16 February 2011

The difference between l1(G) and the reduced group C algebra Cr(G)

In Q2 a couple of things are mixed up. If you consider ell1G with the point-wise multiplication, then ell1G is a commutative non-unital Banach algebra and the closure of the space of commutators (with respect to the multiplication which is induced by the group multiplication) is indeed a two-sided ideal. The quotient is given by ell1-functions on the space of conjugacy classes.



However, if you consider ell1G only with the multiplication coming from the group, then it is a unital (typically) non-commutative Banach algebra and the ideal generated by the commutators is larger that just the closure of the space of commutators. The quotient is ell1H, where H is the abelianization of G.



For the reduced Cred-algebra, the ideal structure can be quite different compared with ell1G. For example, if G is a non-abelian free group, then CsredtarG is simple and there is only the trivial quotient. In particular, the ideal generated by the commutators is everything. However, if G is amenable, the quotient by the commutator ideal can be identified with the reduced Csredtar-algebra of the abelianization of G.



Another way to read your question is the following: Can an element of finite order in G become equal to an element of infinite order modulo commutators in CsredtarG? That is now a question about traces on group Cred-algebras. Equivalently, you could ask: Is there a trace on CsredtarG which distinguishes element of finite order from those of infinite order. For many group (for example a free product of finite groups; not both C2) there exists a unique trace on CsredtarG. In particular, traces cannot distinguish between non-trivial conjugacy classes.



If G is amenable, the situation is different. I do not know whether the reduced Cstar-algebra of an amenable group supports sufficiently many traces in order to distinguish conjugacy classes.

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