Thursday 21 April 2016

Did Miles Dyson kill all these policemen?


I stumbled upon this recent question about Terminator 2, in particular about the scene where Miles Dyson dies after having been wounded lethally and trying to buy time for the others by detonating a grenade. He warns the upcoming SWAT team that the grenade will go off shortly and they run away.




You are implying in the question that there was a moral line the film didn't want to cross. Where no humans are intentionally killed.



Except, Sarah goes to Dyson's home and shoots him infront of his wife and kid. Attempted murder is just as morally wrong as murder. The terminator then cuts the flesh off his arm to show he's a machine. So violence wasn't some hidden in the film.



I don't think the moral line is drawn in the sand as deeply as you imply, and the film was rated R so there wasn't an issue with violence.



Still, the question isn't the morality, but if the police survived the explosions.



Here are a couple of facts, because I happen to be watching it on NetFlix when this question came up.



  • The police enter the science lab from the stairwell, and that is the same door they leave in when they run out.

  • I was able to count to about 14 seconds from the time the police start moving before the bomb goes off.

  • Sarah, Arnold and the kid are in the elevator when the bomb goes off, and have no problem surviving the explosion.

  • The bomb doesn't destroy the floor. It only destroys the research lab on that floor (see image below). The fireball only comes out from a wide second, but clearly not the entire floor.

  • When Arnold exists the elevator there is the same swat team there waiting for them. They were able to get downstairs before the elevator. I was find the same actor playing a swat team member both before and after the bomb explosion (see image below).

Explosion Of Research Lab



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Swat Team Member Before/After Explosion



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So it's clear the swat team didn't die, and they actually appear again in the next scene. Sadly they are all shot in the leg by Arnold. Black guy with big explosive bomb zero points. Terminator with hand gun 10 points. You have to feel sorry to Dyson. First Sarah shoots him, then the swat team shoots him and then he blows up.



I'm going to watch the rest of the film. If I see anything else that I can add, then I'll be back.

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